Difference between revisions of "Paiste 404"
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== 404 == | == 404 == | ||
<div style="float:right">__TOC__</div> | <div style="float:right">__TOC__</div> | ||
| − | [[File:404 logo.jpg|thumb|right| | + | [[File:404 logo.jpg|thumb|right|250px|404 Logo]] |
| + | [[File:404 20 ride.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Later "dual line logo" black label 404]] | ||
'''Introduction:''' 1978 <br> | '''Introduction:''' 1978 <br> | ||
'''Discontinued:''' 1986 <br> | '''Discontinued:''' 1986 <br> | ||
| − | '''Background:''' Evolution of the B8 Dixie | + | '''Background:''' Evolution of the B8 Dixie.<br> |
| − | + | German black label 404s and 505s got serial numbers. Swiss black label 404s and 505s did not.<br> | |
| + | Swiss 404 and 505s made in 1978 will have the ink stamping done in one line above the bell.<br> | ||
| + | In 1979 they changed the stamping to look like the 2002 stamps with Paiste over 404 or 505.<br> | ||
| + | The German black label stamping stayed the same from 1978-81. Paiste 404 or 505 in one line.<br> | ||
| + | Early "black label" 404's were leftover restamped B8 Dixies. | ||
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* Paiste's budget B8 line, below the mid-range 505s and professional 2002s, but still made from the distinctive CuSN8 bronze... No longer in production, the 404s crop up from time-to-time on eBay - they are reasonably well though-of by today's drummers, most of whom believe the 404s to be far superior to currently produced budget models from any manufacturer... <br> | * Paiste's budget B8 line, below the mid-range 505s and professional 2002s, but still made from the distinctive CuSN8 bronze... No longer in production, the 404s crop up from time-to-time on eBay - they are reasonably well though-of by today's drummers, most of whom believe the 404s to be far superior to currently produced budget models from any manufacturer... <br> | ||
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'''Alloy:''' [[Identify_Your_Paistes#B8_.282002.29_Alloy|CuSn8]] (Also known as <b>"2002 Bronze"</b>)<br> | '''Alloy:''' [[Identify_Your_Paistes#B8_.282002.29_Alloy|CuSn8]] (Also known as <b>"2002 Bronze"</b>)<br> | ||
| − | '''Quality:''' Entry Level to Semi Professional | + | '''Quality:''' Entry Level to Semi Professional. Paiste 404 have a good sound, they project and give a true cymbal feel. Made with Paiste know-how, they represent quality at a small investment. Perfect for the demanding student seeking sound value. (1) |
'''Production:''' Similar to the 2002's & 505's<br> | '''Production:''' Similar to the 2002's & 505's<br> | ||
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'''Users:''' Beginner to intermediate drummers looking for something better than an off-the-shelf pack of brass rubbish that's still with their budget... Anyone looking for gig-able cymbals at bargain prices... <br> | '''Users:''' Beginner to intermediate drummers looking for something better than an off-the-shelf pack of brass rubbish that's still with their budget... Anyone looking for gig-able cymbals at bargain prices... <br> | ||
| − | '''Sound:''' Not complex, but not displeasing to the ear... | + | '''Sound:''' Not complex, but not displeasing to the ear... |
==== Rides ==== | ==== Rides ==== | ||
* '''[[Paiste Ride|Ride]] - [[Paiste 404 20" Ride|20"]] [[Paiste 404 22" Ride|22"]]<br> | * '''[[Paiste Ride|Ride]] - [[Paiste 404 20" Ride|20"]] [[Paiste 404 22" Ride|22"]]<br> | ||
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Information from: | Information from: | ||
| + | Todd Little | ||
# Paiste "Six Cymbal Lines" Ad 1981<br> | # Paiste "Six Cymbal Lines" Ad 1981<br> | ||
# Modern Drummer Equipment Annual, 1986<br><br> | # Modern Drummer Equipment Annual, 1986<br><br> | ||
Return to the '''[[Paiste Series|Paiste Series Portal]]<br> | Return to the '''[[Paiste Series|Paiste Series Portal]]<br> | ||
Return to the '''[[Paiste Cymbal Type|Paiste Cymbal Type Portal]] | Return to the '''[[Paiste Cymbal Type|Paiste Cymbal Type Portal]] | ||
Revision as of 19:12, 15 August 2021
404
Contents
Introduction: 1978
Discontinued: 1986
Background: Evolution of the B8 Dixie.
German black label 404s and 505s got serial numbers. Swiss black label 404s and 505s did not.
Swiss 404 and 505s made in 1978 will have the ink stamping done in one line above the bell.
In 1979 they changed the stamping to look like the 2002 stamps with Paiste over 404 or 505.
The German black label stamping stayed the same from 1978-81. Paiste 404 or 505 in one line.
Early "black label" 404's were leftover restamped B8 Dixies.
- Paiste's budget B8 line, below the mid-range 505s and professional 2002s, but still made from the distinctive CuSN8 bronze... No longer in production, the 404s crop up from time-to-time on eBay - they are reasonably well though-of by today's drummers, most of whom believe the 404s to be far superior to currently produced budget models from any manufacturer...
Innovation: Affordable cymbals similar to the 505's.
Alloy: CuSn8 (Also known as "2002 Bronze")
Quality: Entry Level to Semi Professional. Paiste 404 have a good sound, they project and give a true cymbal feel. Made with Paiste know-how, they represent quality at a small investment. Perfect for the demanding student seeking sound value. (1)
Production: Similar to the 2002's & 505's
Applications: All applications, to include live and studio
Users: Beginner to intermediate drummers looking for something better than an off-the-shelf pack of brass rubbish that's still with their budget... Anyone looking for gig-able cymbals at bargain prices...
Sound: Not complex, but not displeasing to the ear...
Rides
Crashes
Hi-Hats
Information from: Todd Little
- Paiste "Six Cymbal Lines" Ad 1981
- Modern Drummer Equipment Annual, 1986
Return to the Paiste Series Portal
Return to the Paiste Cymbal Type Portal
