Paiste RUDE 20" China

Group: Chinas (& Swishes)
Type: China / China Type
Size: 20 Inch
Series: RUDE
Weight: 1921g, 1930g (Original White Label), 1986g (1984 Serial Number), 1986g (1994 Serial Number), 1992g (1984 Serial Number), 1996g, 1998g (1987 Serial Number), 2000g (1983 Serial Number), 2016g (1985 Serial Number), 2027g, 2040g, 2055g (6 rivets, Original White Label), 2060 (Original White Label), 2068g (1986 Serial Number), 2095g
Median Weight: 2000g (n=15)
Years of production: 1982 - 1985 as RUDE, 1986 - 1993 as 3000 RUDE, 1994 - 1999 as 2002 RUDE, 2008 - ?
Sound file: RUDE 20" China
RUDE 20" China
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RUDE 18" and 20" Chinas & 2002 20" China
RUDE 20" China
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Review: "Paiste's Rude range of instruments now have their 'China-types'too. These, however, are the more traditional sort with square-shouldered bell and upturned flange. Two popular sizes are being produced, 18" and 20", both in a medium weight. They're much less tasteful sounding than the Novo; much brasher. They have a really good explosive sound which would be perfect for punctuation. I preferred the crash sound with the cymbal the right way up, and the ride with it upside-down. If used like this there are four distinct sounds possible including inside the bell."

Review written by Bob Henrit ("Assorted Paistes - Cymbalcheck", International Musician & Recording World, January 1985)

Review: The 20" RUDE China is higher in pitch than the 2002 20" China, but lower in pitch than the RUDE 18" China. (see my video comparison linked above) This is trashy, loud, with a slightly "biting" sound. (I do think the 18" version of this model has a bit more trash and sustain.)
It does have nice stick definition if you enjoy occasionally riding on China cymbals. (and it sounds exotic when doing this!)

Review written by Bluejacketsfan

Review: "The 20" RUDE China ($450) was very dark, pingy, weighty, and explosive. This is a no-nonsense China meant to scream and shout. It's the cymbal equivalent of a two-year-old child's full-blown temper tantrum."

Review written by David Ciauro ("2002 and RUDE Wild Series, Nova Chinas", Modern Drummer, November 2009, p. 32)

Review: But how does China sound?

Its volume is crazy and with a sound projection that is almost impossible to find on other cymbals of this type and measurements.

But the sound? Cacophonic, disgusting, and totally inappropriate. A bit like showing up in a lumberjack shirt and muddy boots to the chess club, or using great-grandma's white brocade sheets to have a picnic by the river.

Inappropriate? Sure, but shouldn't a China be exactly like this? (translated from the original Italian:)

Ma come suona questo china?

Il suo volume è pazzesco e con una proiezione sonora quasi introvabile su altri piatti di questa tipologia e misure.

Ma il suono? Cacofonico, sgraziato e totalmente inopportuno. Un po' come presentarsi con una camicia da boscaiolo e gli scarponi infangati al club degli scacchi, o come usare il lenzuolo in broccato bianco della bisnonna per fare un pic nic in riva al fiume.

Inopportuno? Certo, ma un China non deve essere esattamente questo?

Review written by Manuel Persiani

Artist/song where it can be heard: Denny Carmassi, Hellhammer, Inferno, Joey Jordison, Doane Perry, Rod Quinn, Scott Rockenfield, Gina Schock, Chester Thompson, Chad Wackerman