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'''Group:''' [[Paiste Cymbal Type#Chinas (and Swishes)|Chinas (& Swishes)]]<br> | '''Group:''' [[Paiste Cymbal Type#Chinas (and Swishes)|Chinas (& Swishes)]]<br> | ||
'''Type:''' [[Paiste China|China]] / [[Paiste China Type|China Type]]<br> | '''Type:''' [[Paiste China|China]] / [[Paiste China Type|China Type]]<br> | ||
'''Size:''' 18 Inch<br> | '''Size:''' 18 Inch<br> | ||
'''Series:''' [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]]<br> | '''Series:''' [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]]<br> | ||
| − | '''Weight:''' | + | '''Weight:''' 1352g (2023 Serial Number), 1363g (2018 Serial Number), 1364g, 1364g, 1368g, 1378g (2023 Serial Number), 1378g (2007 Serial Number), 1385g (2002 RUDE), 1388g (3000 RUDE), 1401g (2003 Serial Number), 1422g (2002 RUDE)<br> |
| − | '''Years of production:''' 1982 - Present<br> | + | '''Median Weight:''' 1378g (n=11)<br> |
| − | '''Sound file:''' | + | '''Years of production:''' 1982 - 1985 as [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]], [[Paiste 1986 Expansion#3000 RUDE|1986]] - 1993 as 3000 RUDE, [[Paiste 1994 Expansion#RUDE|1994]] - 1999 as 2002 RUDE, [[Paiste 1999 Expansion#RUDE|1999]] - Present as [[Paiste RUDE#RUDE|RUDE]]<br> |
| + | '''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/L7S4vRA1WD8 RUDE 18" China] <br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/dgdhAF6aYfw RUDE 18" China]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/obxHivh3mnk RUDE 18" China]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/aXfLJAgvtGc RUDE 18" China]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/vIdexGuTenA RUDE 18" China]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/giCvO-D9peM RUDE 18" China]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/5wPyBuMhS1s 3000 RUDE 18 China]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/F3d7IiY7KY8?si=QzCZULNsvmSZtq2p RUDE 18" China]<br> | ||
'''Paiste's Description:''' [[Paiste China#RUDE|<<< - >>>]]<br> | '''Paiste's Description:''' [[Paiste China#RUDE|<<< - >>>]]<br> | ||
| + | '''Review:''' "Paiste's Rude range of instruments now have their 'China-types'too. These, however, are the more traditional sort with square-shouldered bell and upturned flange. Two popular sizes are being produced, 18" and 20", both in a medium weight. They're much less tasteful sounding than the Novo; much brasher. They have a really good explosive sound which would be perfect for punctuation. I preferred the crash sound with the cymbal the right way up, and the ride with it upside-down. If used like this there are four distinct sounds possible including inside the bell."<br> | ||
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| + | :Review written by Bob Henrit ("Assorted Paistes - Cymbalcheck", International Musician & Recording World, January 1985)<br> | ||
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'''Review:''' One of the best Chinas I have used thus far in 15 years. Gives a perfect, raw, aggressive, china sound at all levels. Hard, crisp sustain. Not as loud as other Rudes, but gets the job done very nicely! This would make for a great china playing with any style of music, however, better suited for louder styles. <br> | '''Review:''' One of the best Chinas I have used thus far in 15 years. Gives a perfect, raw, aggressive, china sound at all levels. Hard, crisp sustain. Not as loud as other Rudes, but gets the job done very nicely! This would make for a great china playing with any style of music, however, better suited for louder styles. <br> | ||
| − | Review written by ROMAN<br> | + | |
| + | :Review written by ROMAN<br> | ||
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'''Review:''' The 18 RUDE is a very good stable dynamic china with a unique "earthy/raw" sound. It crashes,rides, pings, and explodes great and you can gong it sometimes also.<br> | '''Review:''' The 18 RUDE is a very good stable dynamic china with a unique "earthy/raw" sound. It crashes,rides, pings, and explodes great and you can gong it sometimes also.<br> | ||
| − | Review written by SevenUmbrellas<br> | + | |
| − | '''Artist/song where it can be heard:''' | + | :Review written by SevenUmbrellas<br> |
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| + | '''Review:''' The sound is raw, and maybe it's just me, but I hear a bit of "kang" as well. Being a RUDE, I did expect it to be a bit louder, and with a longer sustain though. But, to be fair, I had a 22" Novo China on the stand just prior to this, so maybe it suffers by comparison. This is a nice sounding china, and I think that those people identifying this series as just for the heaviest of music would be pleasantly surprised. If you compare this to a [[Paiste 2002 18" China|2002 18' China]], you'll see that this is heavier, but not by much - actually the weights collected for that model's 1970s production is the same as this. This is basically a heavy 2002 18" China with no lathing, so perhaps Paiste just uses the overweight ones destined for that line to make these? Well, I don't work in Nottwil, so who's to say, but that hopefully will give you an idea of what this cymbal is. <br> | ||
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| + | :Review written by [[User:Bluejacketsfan|Bluejacketsfan]]<br> | ||
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| + | '''Artist/song where it can be heard:''' [[Paiste Alvino Bennett#Alvino Bennett|Alvino Bennett]], [[Mark Brzezicki#Paiste|Mark Brzezicki]], [[Rayford Griffin#Paiste|Rayford Griffin]], [[Paiste Hellhammer#Hellhammer|Hellhammer]], [[Paiste Ralph Johnson#Ralph Johnson|Ralph Johnson]], [[Paiste Joey Jordison#Joey Jordison|Joey Jordison]], [[Paiste David Silveria#David Silveria|David Silveria]], [[Mikko Siren]], [[Paiste Chad Wackerman#Chad Wackerman|Chad Wackerman]] | ||
Latest revision as of 06:11, 8 February 2026
Group: Chinas (& Swishes)
Type: China / China Type
Size: 18 Inch
Series: RUDE
Weight: 1352g (2023 Serial Number), 1363g (2018 Serial Number), 1364g, 1364g, 1368g, 1378g (2023 Serial Number), 1378g (2007 Serial Number), 1385g (2002 RUDE), 1388g (3000 RUDE), 1401g (2003 Serial Number), 1422g (2002 RUDE)
Median Weight: 1378g (n=11)
Years of production: 1982 - 1985 as RUDE, 1986 - 1993 as 3000 RUDE, 1994 - 1999 as 2002 RUDE, 1999 - Present as RUDE
Sound file: RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
RUDE 18" China
3000 RUDE 18 China
RUDE 18" China
Paiste's Description: <<< - >>>
Review: "Paiste's Rude range of instruments now have their 'China-types'too. These, however, are the more traditional sort with square-shouldered bell and upturned flange. Two popular sizes are being produced, 18" and 20", both in a medium weight. They're much less tasteful sounding than the Novo; much brasher. They have a really good explosive sound which would be perfect for punctuation. I preferred the crash sound with the cymbal the right way up, and the ride with it upside-down. If used like this there are four distinct sounds possible including inside the bell."
- Review written by Bob Henrit ("Assorted Paistes - Cymbalcheck", International Musician & Recording World, January 1985)
Review: One of the best Chinas I have used thus far in 15 years. Gives a perfect, raw, aggressive, china sound at all levels. Hard, crisp sustain. Not as loud as other Rudes, but gets the job done very nicely! This would make for a great china playing with any style of music, however, better suited for louder styles.
- Review written by ROMAN
Review: The 18 RUDE is a very good stable dynamic china with a unique "earthy/raw" sound. It crashes,rides, pings, and explodes great and you can gong it sometimes also.
- Review written by SevenUmbrellas
Review: The sound is raw, and maybe it's just me, but I hear a bit of "kang" as well. Being a RUDE, I did expect it to be a bit louder, and with a longer sustain though. But, to be fair, I had a 22" Novo China on the stand just prior to this, so maybe it suffers by comparison. This is a nice sounding china, and I think that those people identifying this series as just for the heaviest of music would be pleasantly surprised. If you compare this to a 2002 18' China, you'll see that this is heavier, but not by much - actually the weights collected for that model's 1970s production is the same as this. This is basically a heavy 2002 18" China with no lathing, so perhaps Paiste just uses the overweight ones destined for that line to make these? Well, I don't work in Nottwil, so who's to say, but that hopefully will give you an idea of what this cymbal is.
- Review written by Bluejacketsfan
Artist/song where it can be heard: Alvino Bennett, Mark Brzezicki, Rayford Griffin, Hellhammer, Ralph Johnson, Joey Jordison, David Silveria, Mikko Siren, Chad Wackerman
