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*'''NOTE: This model was originally called "ML Swish" according to the May-June 1979 Modern Drummer issue. (Although this name probably was changed prior to the start of production.)<br> | *'''NOTE: This model was originally called "ML Swish" according to the May-June 1979 Modern Drummer issue. (Although this name probably was changed prior to the start of production.)<br> | ||
| − | [[File:A 22 Swish Knocker 1.jpg|thumb|right|450px| | + | [[File:A 22" Swish Knocker 1.jpg|thumb|right|450px|]] |
| − | [[File:A 22 Swish Knocker 2.jpg|thumb|right|450px| | + | [[File:A 22" Swish Knocker 2.jpg|thumb|right|450px|]] |
| − | [[File:A 22 Swish Knocker 3.jpg|thumb|right|450px| | + | [[File:A 22" Swish Knocker 3.jpg|thumb|right|450px|]] |
'''Group:''' [[Zildjian Types and Models#Chinas|Chinas]]<br> | '''Group:''' [[Zildjian Types and Models#Chinas|Chinas]]<br> | ||
'''Type:''' [[Zildjian Swish Knocker|Swish Knocker]]<br> | '''Type:''' [[Zildjian Swish Knocker|Swish Knocker]]<br> | ||
'''Size:''' 22 Inch<br> | '''Size:''' 22 Inch<br> | ||
'''Series:''' [[A Zildjian#A Zildjian|A Zildjian]]<br> | '''Series:''' [[A Zildjian#A Zildjian|A Zildjian]]<br> | ||
| − | '''Weight:''' 2250g, 2439g (Small cursive A), 2459g, 2528g (2023 Serial Number), 2558g (2024 Serial Number), 2571g, 2579g (Large cursive A), 2606g, 2609g, 2622g, 2646g (1996 Serial Number), 2893g (Hollow Logo), 2980g (1996 Serial Number), 3000g (1980s Era)<br> | + | '''Weight:''' 2250g, 2334g, 2382g (2023 Serial Number), 2439g (Small cursive A), 2442g (1996 Serial Number), 2459g, 2528g (2023 Serial Number), 2532g (1996 Serial Number), 2540g, 2558g (2024 Serial Number), 2562g, 2568g (2025 Serial Number), 2571g, 2579g (Large cursive A), 2606g, 2609g, 2622g, 2646g (1996 Serial Number), 2893g (Hollow Logo), 2980g (1996 Serial Number), 3000g (1980s Era)<br> |
| − | '''Median Weight:''' | + | '''Median Weight:''' 2562g (n=21)<br> |
'''Years of production:''' 1979 - ?; Re-introduced 1996 - ?; (Re-designed in 2010); 2010 - Present<br> | '''Years of production:''' 1979 - ?; Re-introduced 1996 - ?; (Re-designed in 2010); 2010 - Present<br> | ||
'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/y9595bbLbKA A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker]<br> | '''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/y9595bbLbKA A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker]<br> | ||
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[https://youtu.be/l6rLHtz3RYs A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker]<br> | [https://youtu.be/l6rLHtz3RYs A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker]<br> | ||
[https://youtu.be/eRiKXw2ss9c A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker]<br> | [https://youtu.be/eRiKXw2ss9c A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/DrEQvqzutt4?si=PkPHeZCblBtHWGro A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker]<br> | ||
| + | [https://youtu.be/tP-MESYzMiY?si=pnwbau92V2yRqcGc A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker]<br> | ||
'''Zildjian's Description:''' [[Zildjian Swish Knocker#A Zildjian|<<< - >>>]]<br> | '''Zildjian's Description:''' [[Zildjian Swish Knocker#A Zildjian|<<< - >>>]]<br> | ||
'''Review:''' "Never mind actually playing this baby; just having itup on your kit is making a statement. A large (22"),heavy, China-ish cymbal featuring twenty rivets, the Swish Knocker is a somewhat famous, if just plain strange cymbal that was made popular by Mel Lewis, Louie Bellson, Buddy Rich, and other big band drummers decades back. Zildjian is now re-releasing the model, which has been adopted by modern drummers like John Robinson and Simon Phillips. <br> | '''Review:''' "Never mind actually playing this baby; just having itup on your kit is making a statement. A large (22"),heavy, China-ish cymbal featuring twenty rivets, the Swish Knocker is a somewhat famous, if just plain strange cymbal that was made popular by Mel Lewis, Louie Bellson, Buddy Rich, and other big band drummers decades back. Zildjian is now re-releasing the model, which has been adopted by modern drummers like John Robinson and Simon Phillips. <br> | ||
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You'd think all those damn rivets would make this cymbal impossible to control, but because of its heavy weight, the Swish Knocker has a relatively short decay, keeping the rivets from dancing all over the rest of the band's sustained notes. Riding is a very realistic and enjoyable tactic with this cymbal, with the result being a dark, slightly trashy—though controlled—wave of sound. Crashing is also quite fun, though it takes a wallop to get all that metal to move some air. The result is quite worth it, though; no other cymbal you own is likely to provide a holy racket and punctuate choruses like this slab of bronze does."<br> | You'd think all those damn rivets would make this cymbal impossible to control, but because of its heavy weight, the Swish Knocker has a relatively short decay, keeping the rivets from dancing all over the rest of the band's sustained notes. Riding is a very realistic and enjoyable tactic with this cymbal, with the result being a dark, slightly trashy—though controlled—wave of sound. Crashing is also quite fun, though it takes a wallop to get all that metal to move some air. The result is quite worth it, though; no other cymbal you own is likely to provide a holy racket and punctuate choruses like this slab of bronze does."<br> | ||
| − | Review written by Adam Budofsky ("Product Close-Up - New Zildjian Cymbals", Modern Drummer, August 1996, p. 45)<br> | + | :Review written by Adam Budofsky ("Product Close-Up - New Zildjian Cymbals", Modern Drummer, August 1996, p. 45)<br> |
'''Review:''' "The Swish Knocker is certainly an atypical cymbal, one which will get you noticed. Played as a straight ride with stick tip near the midpoint of the body it has a bell-like chiming tone over the darker, mysterious body, with the chattering rivets following on. | '''Review:''' "The Swish Knocker is certainly an atypical cymbal, one which will get you noticed. Played as a straight ride with stick tip near the midpoint of the body it has a bell-like chiming tone over the darker, mysterious body, with the chattering rivets following on. | ||
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Paul Francis remarks: "Armand Zildjian told me that this cymbal is not a China or special effects cymbal. It is a ride cymbal for use in the shout chorus where all the brass is playing. | Paul Francis remarks: "Armand Zildjian told me that this cymbal is not a China or special effects cymbal. It is a ride cymbal for use in the shout chorus where all the brass is playing. | ||
| − | "It is called a Swish Knocker because it has the shape of a swish but the 'knocker' comes from knocking time on it. | + | "It is called a Swish Knocker because it has the shape of a swish but the 'knocker' comes from knocking time on it." |
| − | Review written by Geoff Nicholls ("Zildjian Swish Knocker And Z3 Ultra Hammered Chinas review", [https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/drums/zildjian-swish-knocker-and-z3-ultra-hammered-chinas-470001 musicradar.com], June 29, 2011)<br> | + | :Review written by Geoff Nicholls ("Zildjian Swish Knocker And Z3 Ultra Hammered Chinas review", [https://www.musicradar.com/reviews/drums/zildjian-swish-knocker-and-z3-ultra-hammered-chinas-470001 musicradar.com], June 29, 2011)<br> |
| − | ''' Artist/song where it can be heard:''' [[Zildjian Louie Bellson|Louie Bellson]], [[Zildjian Jimmy Chamberlin|Jimmy Chamberlin]], [[Zildjian Peter Erskine|Peter Erskine]], [[Zildjian Steve Smith|Steve Smith]], [[Zildjian Chris Whitten|Chris Whitten]] | + | '''Review:''' "The new 22" Swish Knocker ($561) features a slightly higher profile than previous versions and comes installed with twenty rivets. As with (Mel) Lewis's cymbal, this one has a nice medium-thin weight, which makes it ideal as both a ride and a crash. I had a great time experimenting with this model and found it to be unusually versatile. Although it's known primarily as a big band cymbal, the Swish Knocker also served me well in small-group settings (a piano trio and a saxophone quartet). With a big band, the Swish was great for sax soli choruses, where I needed to build momentum into the main shout chorus with the brass section. The cymbal worked equally well as a ride during an intense horn solo. In a small-group setting, I found that it made a good effects cymbal when a serious dynamic change was required, or when I wanted to use a different color." |
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| + | :Review written by Thomas Wendt ("Zildjian 22" A Swish Knocker", Modern Drummer, August 2011, p. 25)<br> | ||
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| + | ''' Artist/song where it can be heard:''' [[Zildjian Louie Bellson|Louie Bellson]], [[Zildjian Jimmy Chamberlin|Jimmy Chamberlin]], [[Zildjian Peter Erskine|Peter Erskine]], [[Gavin Harrison]], [[Zildjian Steve Smith|Steve Smith]], [[Zildjian Chris Whitten|Chris Whitten]] | ||
Latest revision as of 06:55, 31 December 2025
- NOTE: This model was originally called "ML Swish" according to the May-June 1979 Modern Drummer issue. (Although this name probably was changed prior to the start of production.)
Group: Chinas
Type: Swish Knocker
Size: 22 Inch
Series: A Zildjian
Weight: 2250g, 2334g, 2382g (2023 Serial Number), 2439g (Small cursive A), 2442g (1996 Serial Number), 2459g, 2528g (2023 Serial Number), 2532g (1996 Serial Number), 2540g, 2558g (2024 Serial Number), 2562g, 2568g (2025 Serial Number), 2571g, 2579g (Large cursive A), 2606g, 2609g, 2622g, 2646g (1996 Serial Number), 2893g (Hollow Logo), 2980g (1996 Serial Number), 3000g (1980s Era)
Median Weight: 2562g (n=21)
Years of production: 1979 - ?; Re-introduced 1996 - ?; (Re-designed in 2010); 2010 - Present
Sound file: A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
A Zildjian 22" Swish Knocker
Zildjian's Description: <<< - >>>
Review: "Never mind actually playing this baby; just having itup on your kit is making a statement. A large (22"),heavy, China-ish cymbal featuring twenty rivets, the Swish Knocker is a somewhat famous, if just plain strange cymbal that was made popular by Mel Lewis, Louie Bellson, Buddy Rich, and other big band drummers decades back. Zildjian is now re-releasing the model, which has been adopted by modern drummers like John Robinson and Simon Phillips.
You'd think all those damn rivets would make this cymbal impossible to control, but because of its heavy weight, the Swish Knocker has a relatively short decay, keeping the rivets from dancing all over the rest of the band's sustained notes. Riding is a very realistic and enjoyable tactic with this cymbal, with the result being a dark, slightly trashy—though controlled—wave of sound. Crashing is also quite fun, though it takes a wallop to get all that metal to move some air. The result is quite worth it, though; no other cymbal you own is likely to provide a holy racket and punctuate choruses like this slab of bronze does."
- Review written by Adam Budofsky ("Product Close-Up - New Zildjian Cymbals", Modern Drummer, August 1996, p. 45)
Review: "The Swish Knocker is certainly an atypical cymbal, one which will get you noticed. Played as a straight ride with stick tip near the midpoint of the body it has a bell-like chiming tone over the darker, mysterious body, with the chattering rivets following on.
The rivets add sizzle but die quickly once you stop playing. Crash the upturned brim and you get a pretty harsh trash-can sound. The bell is flattened on the top and if you strike here it is surprisingly deep and nutty, but glance just to the side and it is high-pitched and piercing. A double bell sound, then.
As for how to use it, it's instructive to seek out Mel's understated, musical playing on YouTube, eg: with the Thad Jones-Mel Lewis big band where he positioned his Knocker on the extreme right of his kit.
Paul Francis remarks: "Armand Zildjian told me that this cymbal is not a China or special effects cymbal. It is a ride cymbal for use in the shout chorus where all the brass is playing.
"It is called a Swish Knocker because it has the shape of a swish but the 'knocker' comes from knocking time on it."
- Review written by Geoff Nicholls ("Zildjian Swish Knocker And Z3 Ultra Hammered Chinas review", musicradar.com, June 29, 2011)
Review: "The new 22" Swish Knocker ($561) features a slightly higher profile than previous versions and comes installed with twenty rivets. As with (Mel) Lewis's cymbal, this one has a nice medium-thin weight, which makes it ideal as both a ride and a crash. I had a great time experimenting with this model and found it to be unusually versatile. Although it's known primarily as a big band cymbal, the Swish Knocker also served me well in small-group settings (a piano trio and a saxophone quartet). With a big band, the Swish was great for sax soli choruses, where I needed to build momentum into the main shout chorus with the brass section. The cymbal worked equally well as a ride during an intense horn solo. In a small-group setting, I found that it made a good effects cymbal when a serious dynamic change was required, or when I wanted to use a different color."
- Review written by Thomas Wendt ("Zildjian 22" A Swish Knocker", Modern Drummer, August 2011, p. 25)
Artist/song where it can be heard: Louie Bellson, Jimmy Chamberlin, Peter Erskine, Gavin Harrison, Steve Smith, Chris Whitten
