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'''Group:''' [[Sabian Cymbal Type#Rides|Rides]]<br>
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'''Group:''' [[Sabian Types and Models#Rides|Rides]]<br>
 
'''Type:''' [[Sabian Manhattan Jazz_Ride|Manhattan Jazz Ride]]<br>
 
'''Type:''' [[Sabian Manhattan Jazz_Ride|Manhattan Jazz Ride]]<br>
 
'''Size:''' 20 Inch<br>
 
'''Size:''' 20 Inch<br>
 
'''Series:''' [[Sabian HHX|HHX]]<br>
 
'''Series:''' [[Sabian HHX|HHX]]<br>
'''Weight:''' 1697g, 1716g, 1745g, 1784g, 1801g, 1826g, 1828g, 1832g, 1838g, 1848g, 1851g, 1866g, 1896g<br>
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'''Weight:''' 1697g, 1716g, 1745g, 1784g, 1784g, 1801g, 1826g, 1828g, 1831g, 1832g, 1838g, 1848g, 1851g, 1866g, 1896g<br>
'''Median Weight ''': 1828g (n=13)<br>
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'''Median Weight ''': 1828g (n=15)<br>
 
'''Years of production:''' 2004 - ?<br>
 
'''Years of production:''' 2004 - ?<br>
 
'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/wcWA0rxMiQM?si=qEq58v2wOw1bKA7o HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride]<br>
 
'''Sound file:''' [https://youtu.be/wcWA0rxMiQM?si=qEq58v2wOw1bKA7o HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride]<br>
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[https://youtu.be/u_rsNdKNPpM?si=4-xrXq3ykjaz41NO HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride]<br>
 
[https://youtu.be/u_rsNdKNPpM?si=4-xrXq3ykjaz41NO HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride]<br>
 
[https://youtu.be/QJIk0FZ-x88?si=LzH3eSeIW9htef-E HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride]<br>
 
[https://youtu.be/QJIk0FZ-x88?si=LzH3eSeIW9htef-E HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride]<br>
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[https://youtu.be/Mi2LnTeRfDE?si=wvGhjX45Hp6QP4g6 HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride]<br>
 
'''Sabian's Description:''' [[Sabian Manhattan Jazz_Ride#HHX|<<< - >>>]]<br>
 
'''Sabian's Description:''' [[Sabian Manhattan Jazz_Ride#HHX|<<< - >>>]]<br>
 
'''Review:''' "Though I generally prefer rides of brighter texture, the Manhattan series' dark sound was very seductive. The cymbals were also very sensitive, responding well to even the lightest touch. <br>
 
'''Review:''' "Though I generally prefer rides of brighter texture, the Manhattan series' dark sound was very seductive. The cymbals were also very sensitive, responding well to even the lightest touch. <br>
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Playing these rides simply felt good. I was not busting my gut to get a rhythm out. Instead the sticks just seem to roll off these delightful metal dishes. I was blissfully maintaining a swingin' groove, swept away by the sonic storm of billowing, shimmering sound waves."<br>
 
Playing these rides simply felt good. I was not busting my gut to get a rhythm out. Instead the sticks just seem to roll off these delightful metal dishes. I was blissfully maintaining a swingin' groove, swept away by the sonic storm of billowing, shimmering sound waves."<br>
  
Review written by Will Romano ("Product Close-Up - Sabian HHX Manhattan Jazz Cymbals - Towering Darkness", Modern Drummer, July 2004, p. 31)<br>
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:Review written by Will Romano ("Product Close-Up - Sabian HHX Manhattan Jazz Cymbals - Towering Darkness", Modern Drummer, July 2004, p. 31)<br>
  
 
'''Review:''' "Sabian’s HHX series is specified as “Modern Dark . . . drier, dirtier, funkier”. The word “Dark” translates to lots of low frequency undertones, and I think, after having analyzed quite a few cymbals, “dirtier” means more midrange wash . . . more “SHHHHH” to the sound. We recently reviewed the 18″ Manhattan Jazz Crash, and now turn our attention to the 20″, which, although classified as a ride cymbal, I consider it to work well as a crash/ride.<br>
 
'''Review:''' "Sabian’s HHX series is specified as “Modern Dark . . . drier, dirtier, funkier”. The word “Dark” translates to lots of low frequency undertones, and I think, after having analyzed quite a few cymbals, “dirtier” means more midrange wash . . . more “SHHHHH” to the sound. We recently reviewed the 18″ Manhattan Jazz Crash, and now turn our attention to the 20″, which, although classified as a ride cymbal, I consider it to work well as a crash/ride.<br>
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The cymbal crashes easily because of its weight, and the sustain is longer than the 18″ version. As a ride, the sound has a distinct “ping” with a wash that is about the same loudness, and the bell has an excellent, very pleasant ring to it."<br>
 
The cymbal crashes easily because of its weight, and the sustain is longer than the 18″ version. As a ride, the sound has a distinct “ping” with a wash that is about the same loudness, and the bell has an excellent, very pleasant ring to it."<br>
  
Review written by John E. Johnson, Jr. ("Sabian 20″ HHX Manhattan Jazz Crash-Ride Cymbal", hometheaterhifi.com, September 1, 2011)<br>
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:Review written by John E. Johnson, Jr. ("Sabian 20″ HHX Manhattan Jazz Crash-Ride Cymbal", hometheaterhifi.com, September 1, 2011)<br>
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'''Review:''' "At a time when Paiste and Zildjian have devoted considerable resources toward recapturing the dark sonic archetypes associated with the traditional over-hammered K. Zildjian-style cymbal, the folks at Sabian have very determinedly marched to the beat of a different drummer. Sabian’s stubborn insistence on pursuing an original modern vision of cymbals-influenced by but defiantly distinct from the instruments of the past-is most notable in the form of its family of HHX Manhattan Jazz cymbals. Available in 16-, 18-, 20- and 22-inch models, and a choice of 13- and 14-inch hi-hats, what sets HHX cymbals apart from their purely hand-hammered brethren in Sabian’s HH line, is a higher profile, a shallower, more symmetrical style of hammering and a lighter lathing cut. All of which add up to a clearer, less complex style of cymbal with greater projection-that is to say, a faster, more immediate response and a drier, more radiant sound with more shimmer and brilliance. And while these new HHX instruments are nowhere near as grainy and complex as a standard HH, they are a warmly voiced cymbals-and not particularly bright.
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For these auditions I employed a pair of Vic Firth SD9 Driver drumsticks, which despite their hefty shaft offer jazz drummers a light, focused range of inflections due to their thin throat, oval bead and softer, sweeter sound signature of maple. Compared to the darker, more complex timbres and textures of Sabian’s HH cymbals, these new HHX Manhattan Jazz cymbals are considerably clearer and more open sounding, with a full, focused low-end response, and negligible overtones and colorations in the midrange. Medium-thin in weight, they seem to open up with the slightest touch. You can flex them with your hands, and when fully energized there is a palpable wobble on the outer edges-which tends to dissipate vibrations so that crash accents swell up instantaneously but do not sustain interminably. On the 22- and 20-inch rides, I achieved a woody, bone-dry stick sound over a light, smoky, ephemeral wash with a very warm, short crash response-which allowed me to back off from multiple crash-ride accents and drop right back into time without missing a beat.
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For some jazz players, the Manhattan Jazz rides will be a perfect small-combo acoustic cymbal, whereas for others it will more readily function as a secondary ride sound. I didn’t much care for the 22-inch Manhattan Jazz ride, but I fell in love with the 20-inch model. While I’m sure the dry, buoyant stick response, billowy low-end rumble and absence of complex midrange colorations will recommend the 22-inch ride to many drummers, to me it sounded parched, hollow and uninvolving-because of all the extra surface area-compared to comparable cymbals from Paiste (the 22-inch Traditional Extra-Light ride) and Zildjian (the 22-inch Constantinople Medium-Thin Low).
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However, for my tastes the 20-inch ride had a more integrated, organic sound, and I felt as though the more energy I put into it the more I got out of it. The bell was more articulate than that on the 22-inch, and the stick sound was more focused and coherent: the relative dynamic contrasts in going from ride patterns to side-sticking accents and back again were smoother and better balanced from top to bottom when I laid into it, which just made me feel like swinging. In my setup the 20-inch ride proved a very elegant crash ride, and I think it would be a perfect candidate for rivets, as was the 18-inch model, which shared many of the attributes I admired in the 20-inch, but with a lighter, brighter stick sound, and a much quicker crash response. Oddly enough, the 16-inch model also had good light-ride characteristics and a very nice bell, although obviously it and the 18-inch excel as light, full, fast crash cymbals-warm, round and responsive."
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:Review written by Chip Stern ("Sabian HHX Manhattan Jazz Cymbals", [https://www.jazztimes.com/archives/sabian-hhx-manhattan-jazz-cymbals/?v=0b3b97fa6688 jazztimes.com], April 25, 2019)<br>
  
 
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Latest revision as of 11:18, 31 January 2026

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Group: Rides
Type: Manhattan Jazz Ride
Size: 20 Inch
Series: HHX
Weight: 1697g, 1716g, 1745g, 1784g, 1784g, 1801g, 1826g, 1828g, 1831g, 1832g, 1838g, 1848g, 1851g, 1866g, 1896g
Median Weight : 1828g (n=15)
Years of production: 2004 - ?
Sound file: HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
HHX 20" Manhattan Jazz Ride
Sabian's Description: <<< - >>>
Review: "Though I generally prefer rides of brighter texture, the Manhattan series' dark sound was very seductive. The cymbals were also very sensitive, responding well to even the lightest touch.

Playing these rides simply felt good. I was not busting my gut to get a rhythm out. Instead the sticks just seem to roll off these delightful metal dishes. I was blissfully maintaining a swingin' groove, swept away by the sonic storm of billowing, shimmering sound waves."

Review written by Will Romano ("Product Close-Up - Sabian HHX Manhattan Jazz Cymbals - Towering Darkness", Modern Drummer, July 2004, p. 31)

Review: "Sabian’s HHX series is specified as “Modern Dark . . . drier, dirtier, funkier”. The word “Dark” translates to lots of low frequency undertones, and I think, after having analyzed quite a few cymbals, “dirtier” means more midrange wash . . . more “SHHHHH” to the sound. We recently reviewed the 18″ Manhattan Jazz Crash, and now turn our attention to the 20″, which, although classified as a ride cymbal, I consider it to work well as a crash/ride.

The cymbal has medium sized lathing lines from the bell to the outer edge. Hammering is more clearly seen in the main photo above, and it appears that the hammer strokes are large, and deepest at the middle, while more shallow towards the center and towards the outer edge.

The cymbal crashes easily because of its weight, and the sustain is longer than the 18″ version. As a ride, the sound has a distinct “ping” with a wash that is about the same loudness, and the bell has an excellent, very pleasant ring to it."

Review written by John E. Johnson, Jr. ("Sabian 20″ HHX Manhattan Jazz Crash-Ride Cymbal", hometheaterhifi.com, September 1, 2011)

Review: "At a time when Paiste and Zildjian have devoted considerable resources toward recapturing the dark sonic archetypes associated with the traditional over-hammered K. Zildjian-style cymbal, the folks at Sabian have very determinedly marched to the beat of a different drummer. Sabian’s stubborn insistence on pursuing an original modern vision of cymbals-influenced by but defiantly distinct from the instruments of the past-is most notable in the form of its family of HHX Manhattan Jazz cymbals. Available in 16-, 18-, 20- and 22-inch models, and a choice of 13- and 14-inch hi-hats, what sets HHX cymbals apart from their purely hand-hammered brethren in Sabian’s HH line, is a higher profile, a shallower, more symmetrical style of hammering and a lighter lathing cut. All of which add up to a clearer, less complex style of cymbal with greater projection-that is to say, a faster, more immediate response and a drier, more radiant sound with more shimmer and brilliance. And while these new HHX instruments are nowhere near as grainy and complex as a standard HH, they are a warmly voiced cymbals-and not particularly bright.

For these auditions I employed a pair of Vic Firth SD9 Driver drumsticks, which despite their hefty shaft offer jazz drummers a light, focused range of inflections due to their thin throat, oval bead and softer, sweeter sound signature of maple. Compared to the darker, more complex timbres and textures of Sabian’s HH cymbals, these new HHX Manhattan Jazz cymbals are considerably clearer and more open sounding, with a full, focused low-end response, and negligible overtones and colorations in the midrange. Medium-thin in weight, they seem to open up with the slightest touch. You can flex them with your hands, and when fully energized there is a palpable wobble on the outer edges-which tends to dissipate vibrations so that crash accents swell up instantaneously but do not sustain interminably. On the 22- and 20-inch rides, I achieved a woody, bone-dry stick sound over a light, smoky, ephemeral wash with a very warm, short crash response-which allowed me to back off from multiple crash-ride accents and drop right back into time without missing a beat.

For some jazz players, the Manhattan Jazz rides will be a perfect small-combo acoustic cymbal, whereas for others it will more readily function as a secondary ride sound. I didn’t much care for the 22-inch Manhattan Jazz ride, but I fell in love with the 20-inch model. While I’m sure the dry, buoyant stick response, billowy low-end rumble and absence of complex midrange colorations will recommend the 22-inch ride to many drummers, to me it sounded parched, hollow and uninvolving-because of all the extra surface area-compared to comparable cymbals from Paiste (the 22-inch Traditional Extra-Light ride) and Zildjian (the 22-inch Constantinople Medium-Thin Low).

However, for my tastes the 20-inch ride had a more integrated, organic sound, and I felt as though the more energy I put into it the more I got out of it. The bell was more articulate than that on the 22-inch, and the stick sound was more focused and coherent: the relative dynamic contrasts in going from ride patterns to side-sticking accents and back again were smoother and better balanced from top to bottom when I laid into it, which just made me feel like swinging. In my setup the 20-inch ride proved a very elegant crash ride, and I think it would be a perfect candidate for rivets, as was the 18-inch model, which shared many of the attributes I admired in the 20-inch, but with a lighter, brighter stick sound, and a much quicker crash response. Oddly enough, the 16-inch model also had good light-ride characteristics and a very nice bell, although obviously it and the 18-inch excel as light, full, fast crash cymbals-warm, round and responsive."

Review written by Chip Stern ("Sabian HHX Manhattan Jazz Cymbals", jazztimes.com, April 25, 2019)

Artist/song where it can be heard: