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== Glossary of Commonly Used Terms ==
 
  
  There are several terms often used to describe a cymbal. Find below several of the most used ones. (This is a work in progress)
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There are several terms often used to describe a cymbal. Find below several of the most used ones. (This is a work in progress)
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== Describing Sounds ==
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*AIRY - Bright, light, non-metallic sound. I use airy to describe many of our Leon Collection cymbals.
  
 
*ATTACK -The response rate of the cymbal. Some models are faster (more attack) than others.  
 
*ATTACK -The response rate of the cymbal. Some models are faster (more attack) than others.  
  
*BRIGHT - Sounds that are high-pitched; they offer increased cut.
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*BRIGHT - Sounds that are high-pitched; they offer increased cut. Higher harmonics are emphasized generally.
  
*CUT - The ability of the sound - usually high-pitched or loud - to cut through the surrounding music.  
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*CLANGY - A forceful metal sound. Generally negative, but moderate clanginess can be desirable; it can give raw energy.
  
*DARK - Low-pitched, warm tones that combine for a 'dark' response that blends into surrounding music. HH models, including the Dark Crash, feature dark, traditional tones.  
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*CLEAN - Focused, harmonious profile.
  
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*CUT - The ability of the sound - usually high-pitched or loud - to cut through the surrounding music. Strong, focused attack, tending to be higher-pitched, to cut through a large ensemble or electric band.
  
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*DARK - Low-pitched, warm tones that combine for a 'dark' response that blends into surrounding music. Lower Harmonics are emphasized generally. An over-used word; I may use it to describe a very broad category of cymbal, or to mean, with specific individual cymbals, very dark, compared to warm or smoky.
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*DEAD - Excessively dry or muffled, lacking in expected overtones. Not always a negative quality.
  
 
*DEFINITION - The amount of response given in response to being hit with the stick's tip. A cymbal will seem to have less definition if there are lots of overtones. (generally a thin cymbal). Generally a cymbal gets more definition the heavier it gets, due to the weight creating less overtones. "Stick Definition" is a synonym.  
 
*DEFINITION - The amount of response given in response to being hit with the stick's tip. A cymbal will seem to have less definition if there are lots of overtones. (generally a thin cymbal). Generally a cymbal gets more definition the heavier it gets, due to the weight creating less overtones. "Stick Definition" is a synonym.  
  
The shorthand way to refer to a bronze alloy is the amount of tin is mixed in with the main metal ingredient, copper. So B8 is 8% tin to 92% copper, and B20 is 20% tin to 80% copper. Note that the proportion of tin can vary up or down a bit from the ideal ratio and the alloy still meets the specification. According to Paul Francis the acceptable range of tin for a B20 alloy is 18.5% tin to 21.5% tin. B23 seems different enough to earn a different name. Maybe B25 deserves a different name as well. We will have a close look within the separate alloy sections.  
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*DRY - A minimum of tone ensures a very definite stroke response. Harmonics de-emphasized relative to the direct stick sound.
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*EXOTIC - Suggests an unusual Chinese cymbal or gong like sound or pitch bend.
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*FAST - Responds quickly to the touch of the stick. A smaller or thinner cymbal responds and decays faster than larger, heavier models. When crashing and rolling, builds to a peak and fades quickly.
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*FUNDAMENTAL - The predominant or main sound within the overall response of a cymbal. A Dark Crash produces a fundamental sound that has a relatively low, warm, rich tone.
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*FUNKY - A mysterious combination of dark, dry, trashy, and exotic.
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*GLASSY - Clear, shimmering response. Often clean and smooth -- like glass. Lacking in body; almost an empty sound.
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*GONGY / GONG-LIKE - The cymbal crashes with a bwah sound; in my mind suggesting a low sound. Can be a pleasing quality, or it can be a flaw.
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*LIVE - Full harmonic profile, big wash, easily crashable.
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*METALLIC - A persistent, obnoxious metal sound.
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*NOISY - Pronounced random harmonics. Could be used interchangeably with trashy, but noisy has a more negative implication.
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*PARTIALS - The overtones or series of pitches produced in addition to the fundamental. Every cymbal will have a different percentage of highs, lows and mid-range partials.
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*PIERCING - Unbalanced high harmonics present. I would never use this word as a positive adjective.
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*SIZZLE - A white noise sound made by rivets vibrating on the surface of the cymbal. It's the sound of bacon frying in a pan. Older catalogs used this term for a cymbal with rivets, "Sizzle Cymbal", "Sizzle Ride", etc.  
  
The Brass and Nickel-Silver alloys do not fit into this shorthand naming Bxx for bronze because they don't use tin.  
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*SLOW - Long crash sound that peaks well after the cymbal is struck. Could also describe a cymbal that requires a lot of force to get an explosive crash sound.
  
The easiest way to determine the alloy of an unknown cymbal is visually. Yes different alloys vary in color, L to R Tin % 8, 8, 10, 20
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*SMOKY - Lower harmonics moderately emphasized.  
  
[[File:alloy-colors.png|652x253px|L to R Tin % 8, 8, 10, 20]]
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*SPLASHY - Suggests a cymbal that is very responsive to crashing, possibly with a high sound.
  
However, the colour may be difficult to judge in photographs. This is especially true if it is just one cymbal and the photo is taken under unknown lighting conditions. It is recommended that when trying to identify a cymbal that it be done in person. Comparing to a cymbal of a known alloy is helpful if one is not familiar with the hues of the different alloys. Here are a few examples of the ways in which colours can present differently for cymbals made from the same alloy. Cleaning changes the color as well.  
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*SUSTAIN - The duration of the sound before it decays. Bigger cymbals sustain longer than smaller models.
  
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*SWEET - A pleasantly bright sound. In tune with itself and lacking dissonance
File:Paiste-B8-colors-small.jpg|B8 pair with different colors
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File:B15-color-changes.png|Two ads same B15 cymbals
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*THIN - Not referring to the actual thickness of the metal— suggests an insubstantial, tinny sound.
File:B8-half-cleaned.png|Cleaning changes color
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*TIMBRE - The general sound characteristics of a cymbal. Pronounced TAM-ber, or TIM-ber.
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*TRASHY - Raw and dirty responses associated with chinese cymbals and some special models. Harmonic profile tending towards a white-noise like sound; random harmonics dominating the sound.
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*WARM - A softer response that focuses on a blend of low-pitched, musical tones. Mid and lower harmonics subtly emphasized, generally harmonious profile.
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Thanks to Todd Bishop for a 2019 compilation found here
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https://www.cymbalistic.com/2019/03/10/describing-cymbal-sounds/
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== Describing The Cymbal's State ==
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*CRACK - Generally caused by striking the cymbal using the wrong technique, mounting cymbals too tightly, or mishandling. A crack can run along the lathing grooves, or against them. They most often occur at/near the edge, but can occur anywhere. These can be repaired, which changes the sound. Ultimately the smaller the crack, the less that the crack will affect the sound. However, further use will make the crack get bigger. Cracks are often detected from hearing the metal vibrating against metal across the damaged area. [[File:Cymbal Crack.jpg|thumb|center|250px|Crack]]<br>
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*DAMAGED - Extreme wear and tear, caused by misuse. A badly damaged cymbal could be used for some white noise effects, especially when stacked on another cymbal. Often these are cut down to a smaller cymbal. [[File:Damaged Cymbal 1.jpg|thumb|center|250px|Badly Damaged / Cracked Cymbal]]<br>
  
Results from laboratory tests are more reliable and informative then color, but harder to come by.
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*DING / FLEABITE - Damage caused to the edge of the cymbal. This can be the result of a drop, or coming into contact with force. [[File:Fleabite 1.jpg|thumb|center|250px|Ding / Fleabite]]<br>
  
==  B20 Alloy ==
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*FINGERPRINTS - Touches from fingers onto the cymbal surface. On cymbals that have a protective coating, these can usually be wiped off easily. Finger prints can lead to tarnishing, which usually looks yellowish, greenish, blackish, or brownish in appearance. (depending) Fingerprints should be used descriptively when buying or selling. [[File:Cymbal Fingerprints 1.jpg|thumb|center|250px|Fingerprints]]<br>
  
B20 (CuSn20) tends to have a silver or white colour hue. It is more pale than either the B15 and B8 alloys. The copper in the alloy will oxidize when exposed to the three necessary ingredients: moisture, salts, and oxygen. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patina Patina] is viewed as a good thing or a bad thing by different owners. A more extreme from of oxidation called [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_disease Bronze Disease] is not so welcome, but seldom seen on cymbals.
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*KEYHOLE - Used to describe a mounting hole of the cymbal being out of round. Some keyholes are so bad that a metal grommet might be used to keep the damage from worsening. This is caused by the mounting hole coming into direct contact with the metal post of the cymbal stand. To avoid this condition, always use a cymbal sleeve, and inspect these often for wear.
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[[File:Keyhole 2.jpg|thumb|center|250px|Keyhole]]<br>
  
Examples of B20 cymbals: A Zildjian, K Zildjian, Sabian, Paiste, Meinl, et al. Not all series, but most manufacturers have B20 offerings.  
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*REPAIR - When a cymbal has had a cracked area fixed to make it playable without making the crack worse. Repairs include "CUT/CUT OUT", "NOTCH", "DRILL HOLE", and "CUTDOWN". [[File:Repair Cut.jpg||thumb|center|250px|Repair cut]]<br>
  
Test results on bronze cymbals: There are 24 tests on bronze cymbals which fall into the expected range for tin from 18.5% tin 21.5%. A further 7 cymbals came out with tin in the range 21.5% to 21.94% (so a little high). A further 4 cymbals were at the 22% tin level, and one Zildjian A Custom came in at 17.53% which is an anomalous low reading. Setting aside the one A Custom reading most of the Turkish / American alloys are testing out right around 20% Tin as expected (average 20.4%). Most Chinese cymbals (Stagg, Meinl Dragon) come in at 21% - 22% so a little above the other source countries represented (American, Swiss, Canada, Turkey)
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*STICK MARKS - As it sounds, simply marks from striking a cymbal with the stick. These aren't considered as damage, but something that should be used descriptively when buying or selling. [[File:Stick Marks.jpg||thumb|center|250px|Stick Marks]]<br>
  
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== More Examples ==
 
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File:alloy-block-stamp.png|microstructure of A Zidljian (mid 50s block stamp)
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File:Cymbal Crack 3.jpeg|Crack
File:alloy-trans-stamp.jpg|microstructure of A Zidljian (early 50s trans stamp)
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File:Cymbal Crack 2.jpg|Extreme Crack (This could have been avoided if cut out upon first detection)
File:alloy-az-modern.png|microstructure of A Zidljian (modern)
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File:Mount Hole Cracks.jpg|Mount Hole Cracks - Caused by not using a cymbal sleeve
File:alloy-Fo602.png|microstructure of Paiste Formula 602 (early 70s)
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File:Cymbal Cutdown.jpg|Cymbal Cutdown. This one went from 18" to 10". Altering the cymbal this much will greatly alter the sound.
File:alloy-mehmet.png|microstructure of Istanbul Mehmet (modern) B21
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File:Keyholed Cymbal.jpeg|Keyhole
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File:Cymbal Grommet.jpeg|Grommet used to repair problem with mount hole
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File:Cymbal Repaired 2.jpg|Repair Cuts
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File:Extreme Cut Out Cymbal.jpg|Lots of Repair Cuts
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File:Cymbal Repaired 3.jpeg|Notch Repair, with small holes drilled to stop cracks from getting bigger
 
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Latest revision as of 07:36, 26 June 2024


There are several terms often used to describe a cymbal. Find below several of the most used ones. (This is a work in progress)

Describing Sounds

  • AIRY - Bright, light, non-metallic sound. I use airy to describe many of our Leon Collection cymbals.
  • ATTACK -The response rate of the cymbal. Some models are faster (more attack) than others.
  • BRIGHT - Sounds that are high-pitched; they offer increased cut. Higher harmonics are emphasized generally.
  • CLANGY - A forceful metal sound. Generally negative, but moderate clanginess can be desirable; it can give raw energy.
  • CLEAN - Focused, harmonious profile.
  • CUT - The ability of the sound - usually high-pitched or loud - to cut through the surrounding music. Strong, focused attack, tending to be higher-pitched, to cut through a large ensemble or electric band.
  • DARK - Low-pitched, warm tones that combine for a 'dark' response that blends into surrounding music. Lower Harmonics are emphasized generally. An over-used word; I may use it to describe a very broad category of cymbal, or to mean, with specific individual cymbals, very dark, compared to warm or smoky.
  • DEAD - Excessively dry or muffled, lacking in expected overtones. Not always a negative quality.
  • DEFINITION - The amount of response given in response to being hit with the stick's tip. A cymbal will seem to have less definition if there are lots of overtones. (generally a thin cymbal). Generally a cymbal gets more definition the heavier it gets, due to the weight creating less overtones. "Stick Definition" is a synonym.
  • DRY - A minimum of tone ensures a very definite stroke response. Harmonics de-emphasized relative to the direct stick sound.
  • EXOTIC - Suggests an unusual Chinese cymbal or gong like sound or pitch bend.
  • FAST - Responds quickly to the touch of the stick. A smaller or thinner cymbal responds and decays faster than larger, heavier models. When crashing and rolling, builds to a peak and fades quickly.
  • FUNDAMENTAL - The predominant or main sound within the overall response of a cymbal. A Dark Crash produces a fundamental sound that has a relatively low, warm, rich tone.
  • FUNKY - A mysterious combination of dark, dry, trashy, and exotic.
  • GLASSY - Clear, shimmering response. Often clean and smooth -- like glass. Lacking in body; almost an empty sound.
  • GONGY / GONG-LIKE - The cymbal crashes with a bwah sound; in my mind suggesting a low sound. Can be a pleasing quality, or it can be a flaw.
  • LIVE - Full harmonic profile, big wash, easily crashable.
  • METALLIC - A persistent, obnoxious metal sound.
  • NOISY - Pronounced random harmonics. Could be used interchangeably with trashy, but noisy has a more negative implication.
  • PARTIALS - The overtones or series of pitches produced in addition to the fundamental. Every cymbal will have a different percentage of highs, lows and mid-range partials.
  • PIERCING - Unbalanced high harmonics present. I would never use this word as a positive adjective.
  • SIZZLE - A white noise sound made by rivets vibrating on the surface of the cymbal. It's the sound of bacon frying in a pan. Older catalogs used this term for a cymbal with rivets, "Sizzle Cymbal", "Sizzle Ride", etc.
  • SLOW - Long crash sound that peaks well after the cymbal is struck. Could also describe a cymbal that requires a lot of force to get an explosive crash sound.
  • SMOKY - Lower harmonics moderately emphasized.
  • SPLASHY - Suggests a cymbal that is very responsive to crashing, possibly with a high sound.
  • SUSTAIN - The duration of the sound before it decays. Bigger cymbals sustain longer than smaller models.
  • SWEET - A pleasantly bright sound. In tune with itself and lacking dissonance
  • THIN - Not referring to the actual thickness of the metal— suggests an insubstantial, tinny sound.
  • TIMBRE - The general sound characteristics of a cymbal. Pronounced TAM-ber, or TIM-ber.
  • TRASHY - Raw and dirty responses associated with chinese cymbals and some special models. Harmonic profile tending towards a white-noise like sound; random harmonics dominating the sound.
  • WARM - A softer response that focuses on a blend of low-pitched, musical tones. Mid and lower harmonics subtly emphasized, generally harmonious profile.

Thanks to Todd Bishop for a 2019 compilation found here

https://www.cymbalistic.com/2019/03/10/describing-cymbal-sounds/

Describing The Cymbal's State

  • CRACK - Generally caused by striking the cymbal using the wrong technique, mounting cymbals too tightly, or mishandling. A crack can run along the lathing grooves, or against them. They most often occur at/near the edge, but can occur anywhere. These can be repaired, which changes the sound. Ultimately the smaller the crack, the less that the crack will affect the sound. However, further use will make the crack get bigger. Cracks are often detected from hearing the metal vibrating against metal across the damaged area.
    Crack

  • DAMAGED - Extreme wear and tear, caused by misuse. A badly damaged cymbal could be used for some white noise effects, especially when stacked on another cymbal. Often these are cut down to a smaller cymbal.
    Badly Damaged / Cracked Cymbal

  • DING / FLEABITE - Damage caused to the edge of the cymbal. This can be the result of a drop, or coming into contact with force.
    Ding / Fleabite

  • FINGERPRINTS - Touches from fingers onto the cymbal surface. On cymbals that have a protective coating, these can usually be wiped off easily. Finger prints can lead to tarnishing, which usually looks yellowish, greenish, blackish, or brownish in appearance. (depending) Fingerprints should be used descriptively when buying or selling.
    Fingerprints

  • KEYHOLE - Used to describe a mounting hole of the cymbal being out of round. Some keyholes are so bad that a metal grommet might be used to keep the damage from worsening. This is caused by the mounting hole coming into direct contact with the metal post of the cymbal stand. To avoid this condition, always use a cymbal sleeve, and inspect these often for wear.
Keyhole


  • REPAIR - When a cymbal has had a cracked area fixed to make it playable without making the crack worse. Repairs include "CUT/CUT OUT", "NOTCH", "DRILL HOLE", and "CUTDOWN".
    Repair cut

  • STICK MARKS - As it sounds, simply marks from striking a cymbal with the stick. These aren't considered as damage, but something that should be used descriptively when buying or selling.
    Stick Marks

More Examples