Zil Flat Top Cymbal - Revision history

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 File:z-20-flattop-top.jpg|Top View
 File:z-20-2100-flat-top.jpg|Side View
-File:Z-Flat-top-ad.png|1970 Ad
+File:Z-Flat-top-ad2.png|1970 Ad
 </gallery>
 In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup which is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and more rounded at 1" tall. The most commonly found use of the Large Cup is on the Rock21 cymbal which came out in 1973. The early Rock cymbals also have 60s stamps, as do the early Pang (1971) and Mini Cup Rides (1971).

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 File:z-20-flattop-top.jpg|Top View
 File:z-20-2100-flat-top.jpg|Side View
-File:z-Flat-top-ad.png|1970 Ad
+File:Z-Flat-top-ad.png|1970 Ad
 </gallery>
 In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup which is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and more rounded at 1" tall. The most commonly found use of the Large Cup is on the Rock21 cymbal which came out in 1973. The early Rock cymbals also have 60s stamps, as do the early Pang (1971) and Mini Cup Rides (1971).

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 File:z-20-flattop-top.jpg|Top View
 File:z-20-2100-flat-top.jpg|Side View
-File:Z-Flat-top-ad.png|1970 Ad
+File:z-Flat-top-ad.png|1970 Ad
 </gallery>
 In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup which is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and more rounded at 1" tall. The most commonly found use of the Large Cup is on the Rock21 cymbal which came out in 1973. The early Rock cymbals also have 60s stamps, as do the early Pang (1971) and Mini Cup Rides (1971).

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 File:z-20-flattop-top.jpg|Top View
 File:z-20-2100-flat-top.jpg|Side View
-File:Z-Flat-top-ad.jpg|1970 Ad
+File:Z-Flat-top-ad.png|1970 Ad
 </gallery>
 In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup which is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and more rounded at 1" tall. The most commonly found use of the Large Cup is on the Rock21 cymbal which came out in 1973. The early Rock cymbals also have 60s stamps, as do the early Pang (1971) and Mini Cup Rides (1971).

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 File:z-20-flattop-top.jpg|Top View
 File:z-20-2100-flat-top.jpg|Side View
-File:z-Flat-top-ad.jpg|1970 Ad
+File:Z-Flat-top-ad.jpg|1970 Ad
 </gallery>
 In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup which is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and more rounded at 1" tall. The most commonly found use of the Large Cup is on the Rock21 cymbal which came out in 1973. The early Rock cymbals also have 60s stamps, as do the early Pang (1971) and Mini Cup Rides (1971).

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:11, 15 September 2022
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−	In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup ~~with~~ is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and more rounded at 1" tall.	+	In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup which is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and more rounded at 1" tall. The most commonly found use of the Large Cup is on the Rock21 cymbal which came out in 1973. The early Rock cymbals also have 60s stamps, as do the early Pang (1971) and Mini Cup Rides (1971).

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 The so called 70s stamp didn't come in to use until later in the 1970s<br>
 Or was in use at the same time as the 60s stamp.<br>
 Here is a 20" example which does have the original model ink saying Flat Top, and it also has Medium Ride ink for good measure. For even better measure there is also a picture of the bell taken from the underside which shows the diameter as around 7 inches.

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 '''Size:''' [[Zildjian Flat Top|16"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|18"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|20"]] [[Zildjian Flat Top|22"]]<br>
 '''Series:''' [[A_Zildjian|A Zildjian]]<br>
-'''Weight:''' Medium?<br>
+'''Weight:''' Medium? 18" weights 1490g, 1650g; 20" weights 2100g, 2417g, 2751g; 22" weights 2997g, 3200g<br>
-'''Used Prices:''' coming soon<br>
+'''Used Prices:''' 18" $79 - 250; 20" $107 - $220; 22" $200 - $250 (all have low sample sizes)<br>
 '''Years of production:'''  1970 for just one year <br>
 '''Sound file:''' unknown<br>

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:54, 12 September 2022
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−	In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup with is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and 1" tall.	+	In the top view you can also see that from a straight down view it is not easy to spot that the bell is flat on top. This is better done with a view which is slightly side on. The example above is from a different 20" cymbal which weighs 2200g. The next largest bell diameter in use in the 1970s was the Large Cup with is noticeably smaller at 6" diameter and more rounded at 1" tall.